FCLO: Calling Out Modern Alternative Mama

Yet another good person seems to have been taken down by Dr. Kaayla Daniel’s fraudulant report on Green Pasture’s Fermented Cod Liver Oil (FCLO).

Kate, who runs her blog Modern Alternative Mama, has been a long time user and supporter of the GP FCLO products. But following Dr. Daniel’s report, she turned against her own experiences and wrote a scathing personal attack on the GP FCLO, and Green Pasture’s owner, Dave Wetzel. Having been a fan of Kate, I was shocked, and so I addressed her post head on here.

For convenience, here is my post in its entirety:

Wow Kate, your comments are shocking. You used these products with great success for years, through several pregnancies that ended with perfectly healthy children, and now you throw the products, the company, and the man under the bus with false claims?! I thought you were better than that. I believe that you misled by Dr. Daniel into feeling betrayed by Green Pasture, and you are striking out with an emotional response.

You have been seriously duped by Dr. Daniel’s hidden agenda. You are factually incorrect on numerous counts, and you are perpetuating false statements. Do the research. Experts, i.e., professionals in the field, have shown that all of Dr. Kaayla Daniel’s accusations are false. See this detailed report by Chris Masterjohn, which happens to be in line with all previous tests and reports:


No tests have ever confirmed the Green Pasture FCLO to be rancid. None. Ever.

Summary of Facts (according to experts in the field) about Green Pasture’s FCLO issue:

  • It is NOT rancid. This is explained in great detail by Dr. Masterjohn.
  • It is indeed from fermented livers, and this process is explained in detail.
  • It is Cod. Any search will show you that pollock is one of the few true cod.
  • The nutritional analysis of Vitamin K2, D, A, etc. is very complex; however, the Green Pasture FCLO unquestionably demonstrates a powerful and effective nutritional matrix.
  • The FCLO certainly contains Vitamin K2, and Dr. Masterjohn invites anyone to challenge his previous reports on that topic.
  • Transfat can be from microbial activity, and does NOT imply vegetable oil is present. Dr. Masterjohn presents several possibilities for the transfats, and does not consider their quantity to be significant.
  •  Green Pasture is not the only CLO recommended by WAPF.

Again, no report has ever confirmed the Green Pasture products to be rancid. Dr. Daniel tries to imply, insinuate, infer, and speculate from her own secret lab results, but even those numbers are all dismantled by the experts. In fact, the lab tests from Dr. Daniel’s report actually confirms that the Green Pasture FCLO is an exceptionally clean, powerful, bioactive nutritional cod liver oil. The science is undeniable in this. And the experience of users is even more convincing.

And now you are running with Dr. Daniel’s agenda, adding more insinuations and speculation? Why? What has motivated you to attack a product that has helped you, your family, and your readers?

Some things that you must reconsider in your posts:

1. The fact is that nobody knows exactly what Green Pasture’s process is, as it is a trade secret. Yet you state as a fact that you know the process is the one you reference, and you condemn it. But that is simply not the case. Lab analysis confirms that the FCLO is indeed from a fermented process, but that exact process cannot be confirmed. You do a nice job of pulling up all that historical information, but that is irrelevant, and only serves to distract from the facts.

Furthermore, you misunderstand the concept of fermented CLO. It was never the oil itself that was fermented. It is the livers that are fermented, as the fermentation is used to extract the oils from the liver, and in doing so also imbues the end product with a bioactive nature. And the fact remains that no tests have shown the Green Pasture FCLO to be rancid or putrid.

2. You claim, at great length, that the Green Pasture FCLO is rancid, and yet you have no test results that show it. I find it offensive that you associate links to generic tests about the dangers of rancid oils, free fatty acids, etc., when those links have nothing to do with the product. In addition, you take a personal swipe at Dave Wetzel by quoting him on something that you think is relevant. This is especially sad, as Dave has a tremendous amount of great information on his site, and his opinions and research are respected by professionals in the field. Surely you must know this, and surely you could have posted numerous quotes from Dave that put him in a good light.

3. Anybody can look in Wikipedia or elsewhere and see that pollock is true cod. There is no single fish that represents ‘cod’ in a scientific way. The top level group of the cod family consists of four fish – Atantic cod, Pacific cod, Greenland cod, and Alaskan Pollock. These are all considered ‘true’ cod. That is the genetic taxonomy. In addition, the pollock only accounts for a small percentage of the livers, so any speculation about nutritional impact is meaningless.

4. The politics that you discuss within and around the WAPF have nothing to do with the test results, the analysis of the experts, or the personal experience of users such as yourself. You have a lot of disparaging comments that have nothing to do with the product, and I was sad to see that. As I mention in my opening, it seems to me that you felt betrayed and responded emotionally. It is Dr. Daniel that has betrayed you and the community, and not Dave Wetzel. You have three healthy children that are living proof of the safety and efficacy of the FCLO.

5. There is overwhelming guidance on the dosage of FCLO, the dangers of overdosing, and the fact that it is not for everyone. Yet you pull an obscure quote from Dave Wetzel (which seems likely to have been a typo) to imply that he is pushing dangerous doses. The facts are clearly in Dave’s favor here, as he and others have spoken often on the topic, and the dosages are published in many places.

You article is in disagreement with every test report, and the analysis past and present from WAPF, Dr. Chris MasterJohn, Chris Kresser, and many others. I believe that Dr. Daniel’s misleading report incited an emotional response from you, as surely you must have felt betrayed. You should be relieved to see Dr. Masterjohn’s report that shows Dr. Daniel’s accusations to be unfounded, and thus confirms that your many years of using and recommending FCLO were indeed sound practice and good advice.

Good luck to you, your family, and your readers.

FCLO: Calling Out Chris Kresser

Chris Kresser is a great guy and a great healer. Absolutely a knowledgable and likable force in the natural health community. I enjoy his podcasts and blogs, but I have a very serious concern that I need to voice here.

It seems to me that Chris is compromising himself for monetary gain,  and while I would prefer not to believe that, it keeps poking at me via the FCLO issue (Fermented Cod Liver Oil, from Green Pasture). In truth, I am sure it is not about money. I think Chris has just been duped by marketing and sales at Rosita EVCLO, and by Dr. Kaayla Daniel’s recent report.

Chris has years of great experience and results with the Green Pasture (GP) FCLO, but has recently switched to the EVCLO product, which he gets a commission on. Commissions are fine, except when you marginalize a competing product without any valid justification – as he has now started to do to the GP FCLO.

The first evidence that I saw was in June 2015, in this article. I was dismayed, and made several posts; none of which he responded to. Here are my posts:


Come on Chris, give us a response on the Green Pasture FCLO. I can understand if you stopped using it because of taste or how it personally reacts with you, but it is absolutely the best product on the market, and Dave Wetzel from Green Pasture provides an absurd amount of great info on his products.

Green Pasture deserves your repeated recommendations. There is no company more trustworthy, and their level of transparency and commitment is second to none. They are preserving valuable ancient traditions, and delivering us the very best FCLO and Butter Oil products.

No Response 🙁


Many things invoke the gag reflex, and different things for different people. I watch this all the time within my family, as some people can eat the Green Pasture FCLO like it is ice cream, while others gag.

In addition, there is confusion here about the term rancid. We generally use it to mean that something has ‘gone bad’ and is not fit for consumption. However, that is not the dictionary definition, and is not used by everyone in that context. When something is rancid, it has what is generally considered a foul smell and taste, and is in a state of decomposition, or similarly bioactive. All fermented food fall under this technical definition, but not the common definition.

Thus, FCLO, natto, kimchi, etc. are technically rancid, but highly desirable for consumption, and therefore not rancid by common definition. I hope that helps.

Again, no response 🙁  And my comments there are particularly relevant to what has just happened with Dr. Kaayla Daniel’s ridiculous attack on the Green Pasture FCLO. To which Chris responded here.  It is a well written attempt at being neutral, and yet borders on slanderous with its unfounded insinuations.

My full response to his article is posted in his comments section here; although I do not know if we will approve it, so I present it here in full:

OK, so I am still getting zero response after two months… Chris, you did a great job, but I am very disappointed in you. There is a clear bias in your article, and that bias has caused you to misrepresent yourself on this issue. I have posted questions and challenges to you on FCLO for two months now, and you have not answered any of them. You seem like a great guy, but this puts you in a very bad light. Please consider these points:
1. Innocent until proven guilty. We don’t say ‘He might have killed her’ when we are debating guilt. To imply guilt is to reveal prejudice and create momentum towards that point of view. Innocent until proven guilty. Period. There is no proof that Green Pasture (GP) FCLO is rancid. Period. You did a good job of invalidating Dr. Daniel’s testing, and then you still said ‘the product might be rancid.’ The test does not show it, but it might be? Mind boggling. On top of that, you are someone with first hand experience that the GP FCLO helps people. Absolutely no doubt about it. Your own customers are disagreeing with your negative assertions. The evidence in favor of Green Pasture within your personal sphere is overwhelmingly positive, and yet you say ‘it might be rancid.’ Not acceptable from anyone, let alone a professional in the field that blogs to a large audience.
2. Arrogance breeds Ignorance. You do a wonderful job of hinting at the complexity of the vitamin D testing issue Chris. But you stopped way short. There are hundreds of vitamin D structures in nature; the complexities of which cannot even be known, let alone discussed with any certainty. Similar for vitamin A. Dave Wetzel is great about presenting this type of information, and yet, here we have all these medical experts that somehow skirt that reality. Credit to you for mentioning it, and for referencing Chris Masterjohn on the issue, but it needs to be brought much more into the forefront. As you did point out – testing for D3 and D2 in the products is problematic, as the bioactive nature FCLO cannot be fully understood or measured. But you are still way short, and you do not point to any of the vast information that Dave Wetzel has posted on this topic from himself and other experts. So I will point you to it. Read these posts on Green Pasture and then talk to me about testing:
3. Bioactive. This is such an important concept. We are still woefully ignorant of life, and yet each generation is arrogant enough to think they have all the answers. The great beauty and genius in the Green Pasture products is that they keep it natural and bioactive. They promote natural, organic processes (fermentation), keeping the product as natural and as bioactive as possible. Dave constantly points out that we are not capable yet of fully understanding the nutritional profiles of such foods. The product actually gets stronger over time, as it is active. This idea of ‘fresh’ that you keep associating with EVCLO is irrelevant, and it is inferior to the FCLO in every way (IMO). The fact that you try to imply a fresh smell or taste is somehow healthier is shocking Chris. You know very well that your statement is false, as fermented foods are the healthiest in the world, and it is often the most horrid smelling and tasting foods that are the most nutritious. You know this Chris with absolute certainty. Insinuating otherwise is not acceptable.
4. Variability. Why say that their processing may have changed? You introduce more unfounded concern?! You know – and you stated in your article – that it is a highly bioactive product, and thus it will change over time. You also know, and often discuss, that we are all different, and so our reactions will vary over time and from person to person. Absolutely no reason at all for you to introduce the idea of changed manufacturing processes. Do the research before you try to cast more doubts in public.
5. Transparency. You tried to imply that GP is not transparent by pointing out several times that EVCLO is? Seriously? There is far more detailed information on Green Pasture’s website, and you must know this, since you have used their products for years with great success. Your implications about transparency are patently false. Why would you even say such a thing? Sure the EVCLO site is filled with polished marketing crap, but it is dwarfed by the volume of raw data that Dave Wetzel puts out on his site. By raw, I mean blog posts, conversations with customers, Q&A, and even audio. Not only from Dave Wetzel, but from other doctors and experts in the field, speaking for, with, and even against him. Green Pasture is far more transparent, and they deserve respect and acknowledgement for that. You were duped by EVCLO sales and marketing people at Rosita.
6. Bias. OK, so you do mention that you get a commission from Rosita EVCLO. But you didn’t mention it directly, and not at all in that article. Not very transparent of you. It became obvious to me as I read your article though, and we can find the disclaimer on your website that mentions commissions. Even so, there is no reason for you to compromise yourself Chris. You are better than this.
7. Testing. No Chris, more testing is not the answer. The links above already make that clear, as well as your own comments. Common sense is the answer. We have a huge ‘live trial’ that has been going on for years on a global scale. Green Pasture FCLO is sold and respected around the world, and the accolades and evidence are non-stop. There is no single test or group of tests that will invalidate that historical data.
8. Rancidity.  There is confusion here (and abuse) with the term rancid. We generally use it to mean that something has ‘gone bad’ and is not fit for consumption. However, that is not the technical definition, and is not used by everyone in that context. When something is rancid, it has what is generally considered a foul smell and taste, and is in a state of decomposition, or similarly bioactive. All fermented food fall under this technical definition, but not the common definition. 
Obviously the tests do not help, as ‘experts’ cannot agree on the meaning of the various ‘markers’ that we attempt to associate with rancidity. And as you noted, even the biased report and testing from Dr. Daniel’s report cannot condemn the GP FCLO as rancid. Statistics never lie, but liars use statistics.
Thus, FCLO, natto, kimchi, etc. are technically rancid, but highly desirable for consumption, and therefore not rancid by common definition.
9. Cod. You blindly jumped on the bandwagon and supported Dr. Daniel’s false statement. Just look up Cod and you will see that Alaska Pollock is Cod. There is no single fish called ‘Cod’ because Cod is a family of fish. This is common knowledge. The GP FCLO is absolutely from Cod, and there is no question about it. The DNA reports confirm that 100%.
Hey, FCLO is not for everyone, so there will always be naysayers. But not everybody loves chocolate either.
You owe Green Pasture an apology, and you owe yourself, your clients, and your audience more. You’re a good guy. Perhaps you were a bit starstruck by Dr. Kaayla Daniel’s name on the report. She duped you and many others. Make it right Chris.

Boron, Arthritis, & More

BoronLet’s talk a bit about boron. Boron is an element, and a mineral that our body needs. Without enough of it, our body fails to make proper use of calcium, magnesium, and lots of other things. We don’t need a lot, but it is critical that we get the little we need. A great many problems can be fixed by this single mineral.

I was motivated to write this by a recent experience with a family member. Nearly a year of constant visits to doctors and hospitals did nothing to resolve a constant pain that the patient was experiencing in her arm and chest. Other than the pain, she seemed to be in perfect health. None of the doctors had any idea what was wrong, and no recommendations for further action. They assigned her to physical therapy and said that she had ‘fifty’s shoulder’ and was simply getting old. (A common catch-all diagnosis in Japan)

I suspected it was a chiropractic issue, and finally got her to agree to visit one. Of course the doctors and hospitals never recommended one (Sadly, chiropractics are still not recognized as ‘doctors’ in Japan). But then as she was preparing for her visit, I learned some other things that she hadn’t told me before. Chiefly, that she was having severe body cramps every night, which not only disrupted her sleep, but left her in pain. Cramps.

The first thought when hearing about cramps – magnesium. But she has a pretty good diet that should compensate for the magnesium deficiencies in our food. To be sure, we recently added magnesium and D3 supplements to her daily routine. However, boron alone has already started to have an impact. The cramps are subsiding and she is sleeping better.

Historically, boron was plentiful in lots of plants, so mankind never had a problem getting it. But now our soil, and thus our plants, are severely deficient in boron. And of course that means we too are now deficient.

The solution is sustainable agriculture, where we once again establish nutrient rich soils that bear nutrient rich plants. But that is a long-term solution. What about now? If you can’t get enough boron from your food, there is a rather unusual way to supplement, and it involves Borax.

Sally Fallon’s boron tonic: mix 1 teaspoon of borax into 1 quart of water and mix well. Use only 1 teaspoon of this base mixture mixed into a glass of water each day.

This is arguably the very best boron supplement that you can get, and it cost practically nothing. The very best borax (i.e. Two Mules brand) has been mined from the same place for over a hundred years, and a five dollar box will last you a lifetime. Pure. Cheap. Plus, it isn’t another pill to take. It is just a glass of normal tasting water – that you could use to wash down other supplement pills, I suppose. Magnesium and D3 would seem like the ideal combo. (Although I am generally not a fan of supplementing with pills)

If you are suffering from cramps, osteoporosis, or any number of other ailments – which might actually be attributed to calcium or magnesium deficiencies – boron might be your solution. But don’t take my word for it. Read more about boron here:




And back to my current experience… Another hint that boron was probably the problem – she was losing mobility in her shoulders, which seemed like arthritis, according to the doctors. I could suspect K2 deficiency here, but she eats a ton of natto and other K2 rich foods.

She may yet need to make other diet adjustments, but it seems that this tiny little bit of boron every day might just do the trick and restore her shoulder mobility, eliminate her cramps (and restore her sleep!), and eliminate her constant daily pain. That is an awful lot of birds with one stone.

As always, it all comes down to proper nutrition.

Tooth & Gum Care

Squeezable Homemade Remineralizing ToothpasteAs I prepared for my visit to NY and packed my stuff I realized that it might be a good time to share some info about toothpaste.

Many toxic sources that often go unnoticed are the products that we use for dental care. Toothpaste, mouthwash, picks and various tools that are steeped in chemicals. You can eliminate them all with natural homemade solutions that are much more effective.

The information in this post owes much to the work of Dr. Weston A. Price, and the books from Ramiel Nagel that present Dr. Price’s work in addressing tooth and gum care.

There are many additional books and websites that provide various toothpaste or tooth powder recipes, and one of the most basic ‘secrets‘ is to use baking soda and some sea salt with colloidal silver (or hydrogen peroxide – but only if you have no metal in your mouth). I used this powder for some time, and then moved to an equal parts baking soda and bentonite clay mixture in coconut oil for a toothpaste. Both are very effective.

One caution: for some people, the gums can respond negatively to too much baking soda, which is likely due to making your ph too high. This depends a lot on the individual and their diet. It was a problem that baffled me for a while with my own personal use. Thus I have reduced the amount of baking soda that I use.

And now I use the recipe below, which is copied from The Healthy Home Economist, who in turn adapted it from The Wellness Mama’s Squeezable Toothpaste Recipe. I highly recommend reading many of the related articles on The Healthy Home Economist blog, as there is a wealth of information there on this topic.

Ingredients for Healthy Remineralizing Toothpaste

6 Tablespoons of virgin coconut oil
1 Tbl baking soda
5 Tbl calcium carbonate (where to find)
1-2 Tbl bentonite clay (where to find)
20-30 drops of peppermint essential oil
5-10 drops of lemon essential oil
30 drops of trace minerals (where to find)
Filtered water as needed


Mix all the ingredients well.  If the mixture is too hard or thick, add a few splashes of filtered water.

It easy once you have everything on hand. I also use a squeezable silicon tube, recommended by the Wellness Mama, to replicate the convenience of a toothpaste tube. 

It should be noted that the amount of essential oils can be adjusted a lot, as not all brands are of equal potency. And you can adjust the other contents too, to find a preferred taste and texture.

How About Oil Pulling?

I highly recommend oil pulling as an effective detox method for not only the mouth, but the entire body. I put a spoonful of virgin coconut oil in my mouth every morning and swish it around for fifteen or twenty minutes, and then spit it out (into a paper towel). I also rinse with colloidal silver (CS) before and after this, keeping the CS in my mouth for at least a minute each time. It is usually effortless for me, as I can do it while I am prepping for the morning. I sometimes do it before, during, or after exercise or running. Brushing is done after that.


Maybe you like to use mouthwash? OK, here is a great mouthwash ‘recipe’ that you can make at home. I will reprint it here, but the linked article is definitely good reading:


Xylitol is a little bit controversial, so I do not recommend it. If you really need a sweetener, I recommend pure stevia; although I personally do not find the need for any sweetener.

Why Should We Use These Recipes?

As far as cavity fighting, I already  use colloidal silver as a rinse before and after oil pulling. But fighting the cavity is not enough, as some damage will always be done. We need to heal. We need to remineralize.

The entire idea of ‘cavity fighting’ is irrelevant if our diet is good (i.e. following the WAPD guidance), as our cavities will heal.  And this mouthwash and toothpaste are aiding in remineralization, which is the key point for ‘fighting’ cavities.

Our ancestors thrived for millions of years without any of this – why? – because the body eliminates cavities and repairs teeth naturally when it has the nutrition it needs. Look around you. Animals and people throughout history have maintained perfect teeth. Diet is the single most powerful influence on the health of your gums and teeth.

But the recipes above help us stay healthy in several different ways:

  • They displace toxic products.
  • They help detox the mouth and body.
  • They help fight pathogens that cause cavities.
  • They help the body heal cavities.

Even with a perfect diet we are still inundated with toxins from our environment, so these types of recipes are a great way to help maintain health.

Personally, I have some old fillings, occasional cavities, and gum disease ( but no root canals), and my overall oral health seems to be steadily improving. – although it backslides quickly when I get lazy with my diet. The biggest and quickest positive impact always seems to come when I supplement with Fermented Cod Liver Oil and Butter Oil from Green Pasture. I have seen pinhole cavities disappear when taking those superfoods, and sensitivity and bleeding will cease.

Search the internet and you will find many stories (and photos) of people healing their teeth and gums with similar recipes and diet.